Thursday, March 15, 2012

For the Record: A Sample of a Santorum Supporter Debating with a Ron Paul Supporter or a Libertarian

FROM:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Filipino-Americans-for-Rick-Santorum/327776107253898

Pro-Santorum argument is highlighted for better reading.
 
 
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      Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Ron Paul Pro-Life? Really? Here's Rick Santorum rebutting the libertarian Ron Paul's pro-life credentials: https://www.facebook.com/notes/dennis-dupuis/prolife-rick-santorum-vs-ron-paul/281109838609578
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      James Aron Mangun Ron Paul is all for freedom of choice and reduction of big government...so I dont mind if Ron Paul is pro abortion since he respects the rights of everyone

      Your buddy Santorum on the other hand, is for nig government, and taking away individual rights...thats why even his fellow Republicans hate him
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      Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Ron is a Libertarian, not a Republican. Ron Paul doesn't fight the pro-abortion establishment, he's open to gay unions, he's pro-legalized-prostitution, pro-legalized-drugs, under the guise of us needing to legitimately protect the Constitution. Sounds like a Silly Sixties Liberal isolationist! On the other hand, fellow Republicans seem to be asking that Santorum be the conservative alternate to Obama last I checked delegates and states he won. Ron has been running for President for a long time, and he still hasn't won at least 1 of the 25+ states that have voted thus far. Rick Santorum has been endorsed by the pro-woman Susan B. Anthony List. We urge you to re-consider your vote, James. WE PICK RICK!
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      Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Ron Paul is a Libertarian, not a real Republican. Wrong Paul is pro-abortion, pro-gay-unions, pro-legalized-prostitution, pro-legalized marijuana, and pro-moral-relativist. Sounds like a Silly Sixties Liberal!!! Rick stands for traditional family values and has a plan to address the Obama Recession.
    • James Aron Mangun Yeah pick Rick.......the biggest PRICK!!!!!

      Rick Santorum is for killing and making homosexuality illegal, forced conversions of people to Catholicism, anti-choice and anti-woman, claims to be a conservative yet he is for big government and sending billions of dollars of taxpayer money to dicks like Kim Jong Il and Mubarak and government overspending while violating constitutional rights

      Oh I forgot...you dont care cause you dont pay taxes hahahaha...your another recipient of the welfare system that Santorum supports
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Now, now, James, name-calling is a sign that one cannot put a coherent argument together. No need for it, let's be civil please. Re: your points, Rick is not for killing and making gay unions illegal but not making them legal-- there's a difference. He does not want to force convert people to Catholicism but wants to defends the First Amendment. Why is it that when Rick is sincere about his faith one thinks Rick is a theocratist..he's not. Yes, Rick is pro-life, and many women support him, articulates an economic vision that isn't socialist, and puts tyrants around the world on notice that they cannot abuse their people. Romneycare is Obamacare, and Rick wants to repeal Obamacare. I encourage you not to support the Libertarian Ron Paul and to look in to why those moral issues you describe are not American.
    • James Aron Mangun And where is this "economic" vision that Rick has outlined LOL

      Rick, unlike Newt and the others have never outlined ANY plans on how to save the economy and get us out of the recession.....except propose killing homosexuals who he blames everything for

      Notice how he only talks about moral issues yet never abvout important issues such as the economy and foreign policy...thats cause he has NOTHING to offer

      Too bad moral issues dont feed people
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum James, you're a devout Libertarian. THat's why you support Ron Paul. Ahhh...now it makes sense. You're also Filipino-American, but Fil-Am's tend to be pro-family. It seems that you have a problem with Rick b/c he challenges your morality, esp. on sex? Is this correct? Does Rick really challenge your conscience? I think deep down you know that he's correct.
    • James Aron Mangun Yes I am a Libertarian...just like our Founding Fathers who envsioned a countrywith a limited government and where people can enjoy their rights......which was why the United Statees was founded

      I have a problem with Rick because

      a) He's a bonafidde Flip-Floppper who cant make a choice on several issues

      b) He is a faux fiscal conservative who supports big government

      c) He wants to take away human rights in the name oif religion

      d) The same shit all over again....waste more taxpayer money
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum James, re: your "economic" point, here are 10 of them from Rick Santorum on energy, manufacturing, pro-family tax laws, job creation, anti-socialist policies-a-Obama, repealing Obamacare, just to name a few: http://www.ricksantorum.com/rick-santorums-first-100-days-economic-freedom-agenda
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    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum James, I can't seem to open your last post about your being a Libertarian. Can you please re-post for my rebuttal? Thanks!
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum First, the Founders were not libertarian. They were Protestant Christian with many Deists, yet they had a correct vision that human rights come from the Creator, not the State, as we see in the Declaration of Independence.
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum re: your points: a.) What issues do you refer? b) Rick wants a federal balanced budget amendment. Also, compared to socialist-communist Obama, Rick is fiscal boy scout. Obama is the real issue of this campaign. Obama said that he if can fix the economy in 4 year then he should be a one-term President c) no, not true, human rights come from the Creator. This is unique in America, which is not the case in Europe. If the State gives rights, then in principle it can manipulate those rights. If rights come from the Creator, then nobody can take them away. Also, human rights are not the same as special rights. d.) You support Obama, and you're saying this to a cut-taxes Republican group like this? WE PICK RICK!!!
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Hello, James, are you still there?
      23 hours ago ·
    • James Aron Mangun Yes sorry I have been out since I have a thing called a JOB...unlike you and your friends in the USA who hate America for being too immoral and too liberal yet you live there and bum off welfare and send it back to your relatives in Asia's only nation chosen by God(Da Pelepeens)
      23 hours ago ·
    • James Aron Mangun ‎"You're also Filipino-American, but Fil-Am's tend to be pro-family. "

      Im half of both(though mostly white).Any problems???Do I have to believe what majority of Filipinos do because my other half is Pinoy??
      Taking out the race card again, just like most retarded Pinoy Prayders hahahaha
      23 hours ago ·
    • James Aron Mangun You just hate Ron Paul cause hes gonna put an end to the Welfare State and stop granting free Visas to illegals in the US...not to mention he will stop giving foreign aid to ingrate countries who hate the US
      23 hours ago ·
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Yes, the Republic of the Philippines is blessed by God. I have a life, too, but I also believe that Rick Santorum is the best alternative to the Socialist Obama's who natural birth certificate we can't even verify and have reasonable cause to believe it's been forged. Hey, you decided to post here, so we are replying to your comments. Can't we all just get along? Can't we just agree to disagree? You know, I teach philosophy; if you'd like you and I can talk about your agnostic position offline. I'm not sure this conversation is going to change your mind, but we're leaving it here to show people how to debate with error and to do it with love. Also, "hate" is such as strong word. THere are good things in America...she just needs to rectify some unjust laws. Aren't you of Filipino descent...I'm not sure why you made that last line. Now, to return to why Santorum is the better choice over the libertarian Wrong Paul, why do you support an isolationist candidate? America is a good ally for the Philippines, you know, esp. to fight Communism.
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    • James Aron Mangun ‎"Yes, the Republic of the Philippines is blessed by God"

      Really?????then why is it among the poorest in the world...not to mention has a very high crime rate and low FDI???Blessed by God my arse....get real and quit drinking the Pinoy Prayd Kool-Aid
      23 hours ago ·
    • James Aron Mangun ‎"America is a good ally for the Philippines, you know, esp. to fight Communism."

      LOLZ that was the funniest comment ever. You must be stuck in the 80's pal.....The world hasnt been fighting communism since 1991 :) The world has been fightingt terrorism and they aren't communists ^____^
      23 hours ago · · 1
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Hello?? Well, I'm going to sleep soon. Good night, James. I hope to talk to you later.
      23 hours ago ·
    • James Aron Mangun ‎"Wrong Paul, why do you support an isolationist candidate?"

      Because my homeland hasnt been getting anything from supporting these countries. Tell me, what has the United States getting from granting billions of dollars of aid to countries like the PH who HATE America......having their embassy get thrown rocks at???????or having a military adviser assassinated???

      The only beneficiaries of foreign aid are the rich, the oligarchs and corrupt politicians of these countries..who cant do scat about their countries' Turd World conditions

      I say STOP THE AID when there are probs at home
      23 hours ago · · 1
    • Megan Paulbot Fermo THANK YOU, James.
      23 hours ago · · 1
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Re: Philippine poverty, b/c she has served three colonial masters and is learning to be a great independent Nation, the first of which was EDSA in 1986. She taught the world how a country inspired by Christian ideals and social teaching can win a bloodless revolution. Secondly, moral depravity in the country needs to cease, esp. corruption, internally. Third, the Philippine-American alliance has promoted freedom in the Pacific since WWII.
      5 hours ago ·
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Re: Communism, you as Ron Paul supporter of all people know that socialism/communism are still alive, my friend. Look at China in the Philippine back yard, where there are many human rights abuses. According to Ron Paul, America should not rectify those abuses. Isn't that argument a bit selfish?
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    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum For foreign aid in the Philippines, the abuses of monetary assistance to fight the socialist/communist/terrorists in the homeland does not imply an isolationist position-a-la-Ron Paul. There are people in the Philippines who love America and the freedom she promotes around the world (that isn;t immoral). Rick has more foreign policy experience than Ron Paul.
      5 hours ago ·
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum James and Megan, are you registered Republicans?
      5 hours ago ·
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum What does ROn Paul want to do about the human rights abuses in the world?
      5 hours ago ·
    • Filipino Americans for Rick Santorum Well, James, my Kaibigan (spirit of friendship), we have to unfortunately move on from this thread into other strategic areas of the campaign to help Rick win the nomination. As I study Ron Paul more, I see that Ron's become a red herring in this picture. My final thoughts for you and other Ron Paul followers are as follows, and I provide the source of the quote below. All the best to you, James. Here it is: "As Ron Paul has done for a few decades now, he has brought a lot of tenacity to the political debate during this race. He has raised some very important issues, especially those concerning monetary policy and the economy. But after losing 27 states in a row and not having a single win, it is clear that he is only in the race at this point as a protest factor. He will collect a few more delegates to add to the handful he has collected along the way, and try to make as much of a stir as he may at the convention. But it will fall well short of the promised “revolution” his die hard supporters have been awaiting." http://thesouthcarolinaconservative.com/2012/03/15/santorum-sweeps-romney-repudiated-newt-moot-paul-punts-song-of-the-south/ WE PICK RICK!
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